Heh
http://overlawyered.com/2009/12/parents-…
“A Rockland County family filed suit against the New York Archdiocese after a Catholic preschool wouldn’t accept their child because she has not been fully vaccinated…
Awesome comment:
Good to see someone finally standing up for their constitutional right to enter another’s private property for the express purpose of infecting the property owner’s associates with serious, preventable diseases.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Funny that. We chose not to vaccinate our son. After doing a lot of research into what makes up the vaccines (lots of neurotoxic aluminum with no guidance on how much is safe in a newborn/infant, plus other crap). Not to mention the vaccines are only about 85% effective, and do result in the odd death due to a bad reaction to the vaccine. The screwed up thing is the FDA has no system in place to track reactions to the vaccines.
I have some pretty odd drug sensitivities, and my wife and I felt more comfortable not vaccinating now, and waiting until the boy was older before we do anything.
Of course, we’re in a low risk group. I work from home, the wife doesn’t work, and we’re not putting the baby in daycare, definitely not letting the state run his education, and most likely will home school.
If we were doing any of those things with him, we’d have made significantly different choices.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
There is certainly alot of unwarranted chemophobia out there concerning vaccines and it is truly tragic. It’s unconscionable how Anti-Vaccers rely on “herd immunity” to keep their own children safe while increasing the risk of disease to everyone else around them. Especially when life threatening adverse effects like anaphylaxis is exceeding rare. Most people experience nothing more than a temporary rash or fever. That seems to me a small price to pay to insure against disease.
As is too often forgotten in these hyper risk averse days, the poison is in the dose. The amount of alumina used in these products is tiny (typically micrograms) and results in a large decrease in the amount of antigen (virus, etc.) that is required to produce an effective vaccine. Thimerosal has got to be one of the most effective bacteriostats we have ever created, but because of unfounded beliefs that miniscule amounts of Hg causes autism we are left using less effective preservatives that reduce the shelf life of these vaccines. (A definite concern for treating disease in the 3rd world.)
I think the problem is that vaccines have been too effective at what they do. For most people, the reality of diseases like polio or rubella is nearly mythical compared to even the rare severe adverse effects or allergic reaction seen with the current crop of vaccines.
December 31st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
[quote comment="229582"].I think the problem is that vaccines have been too effective at what they do. For most people, the reality of diseases like polio or rubella is nearly mythical compared to even the rare severe adverse effects or allergic reaction seen with the current crop of vaccines.[/quote]
I think the opposite is true. Vaccines are getting over hyped. In the past, once you got the polio vaccine, you didn’t get polio. With many of the current vaccinations, immunity doesn’t occur until the “herd” has been vaccinated and in a number of cases, a breakout occurs in the vaccinated “herd.”
December 31st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I’ll concede your point when it comes to vaccines for such diseases as the flu. That particular disease mutates far too quickly for vaccines to be truly effective and given that the side effects often mirror the original disease I question the worth of that vaccine (except for the most high risk populations).
However, for such diseases as the measles, your point is demonstrably not true. As much as I hate to use wikipedia as a quick reference, here we go:
“Of the 66 cases of measles reported in the U.S. in 2005, slightly over half were attributable to one unvaccinated individual who acquired measles during a visit to Romania.[9] This individual returned to a community with many unvaccinated children. The resulting outbreak infected 34 people, mostly children and virtually all unvaccinated; 9% were hospitalized, and the cost of containing the outbreak was estimated at $167,685. A major epidemic was averted due to high rates of vaccination in the surrounding communities.”
January 1st, 2010 at 1:06 am
I agree. There are clearly diseases for which vaccines work. There are others like Hep B given at birth to prevent the child from getting a blood based disease. Not many 5 year olds getting tattoos or engaging in reckless sex.
Doctors could do much better job managing vaccines rather than tow the pharmaceutical party line.